### Chat Log: General 12/07 07:39 PM ###
Langley | M'yup, Lokath.
You say, '((Chat logging has begun))'
Lokath says, 'Yay, we can all hear.'
Anubias says, '((Hehehe...Its all OOC with me. I have no reason to be here IC :P'
Aerhinn sits with Faolan.
Sileas says, 'wooohoo!'
Kaenwynn munches on some food.
Malkyr sits with Glorenthir.
Inspecting Saelir...
Galadannun sits down.
Vashai begins to smoke.
Glorenthir begins to smoke.
Aellwen says, 'yes'
Ardra says, 'That'd be nice : )'
Kaenwynn says, 'Agreed!'
Uthol says, 'Yep'
Vashai nods
Arion says, 'Seconded :)'
Sileas says, 'yep yep!'
Lokath smacks Saenwynn
Anubias says, 'Excellent.'
Lokath says, 'That's disgusting. We ought to lock you up just for that.'
Annuiel says, 'Hmm..I seem to have missed that'
Langley | Indeed, Arolamir, also, all commentary made should be done through emote, for the sake of chat range and what have you.
Malkyr drops the (( )) and slides it under the rug
Aellwen says, 'lol funny'
Kaenwynn says, 'Ahahahahaha....Oh Cliffe...'
Lokath says, 'No! This is totally RP! *tackles Redwolds and drags to jail*'
Kaenwynn says, 'lol'
Anubias says, 'Chat range is not affected in instances, like housing.'
Anubias says, ':)'
Anubias says, 'Only outside.'
Langley | For good measure, then?
Aellwen says, 'actually it is'
Annuiel says, 'Odd..as I'm fairly sure I missed something..'
Kaenwynn begins to smoke.
Aellwen says, 'we had problems last time'
You say, 'It always has been in here'
Anubias says, 'Not in my experience.'
Anubias says, 'Really? Odd...'
Anubias frowns.
Aellwen says, 'last time we had this meeting we had to close the circle more'
Avadrin says, 'We have occasionally gotten the /say bug in our own kin house where we are unable to hear each other in range...'
Kaenwynn says, 'can you hear me know Lokath!'
Kaenwynn says, 'now***'
You say, 'Nah, circle was actually a bit wider last time. I think we should be good this time'
Anubias says, 'Wow...I have never seen it occur in an instance...'
Lokath says, 'I could at least hear Kaen from in taht room.'
Anubias says, 'Good to know, thanks for the correction.'
Lokath says, 'So, this circle will be fine.'
Kaenwynn says, 'yea! Loud voice!'
Daemyn begins to smoke.
You say, 'should be'
Aellwen says, 'at least this time I wont have to turn lfrp off mid meeting. The channel seemed to of died on us'
Lokath says, 'I think all the LFRPers are here O.o'
Finleigh says, 'We -are- the channel'
You say, 'lol prolly'
Aellwen says, 'lol'
Sileas says, 'hehehe'
You say, 'Well I think we're all set. What was the first item? Intros again?'
Anubias says, 'Huh...never heard of that channel. There are so many...:D'
Lokath says, 'Ugh, intros will take forever.'
Kaenwynn says, 'lawl.'
Sileas says, 'mmmmmmmm'
Anubias says, 'Hehehe'
Malkyr says, 'mmmmm waffles'
Aellwen says, 'we did intro's last time we were here'
Sileas says, 'om nom nom'
Kaenwynn says, 'I support intros'
Aellwen says, 'I think getting to the nitty gritty is better'
Lokath says, '*eats waffles*'
Finleigh says, 'Thare's tons of people here for intros lol'
Lokath says, 'There were about a 5th of the people last time.'
Kaenwynn says, 'but I support waffles more...'
Stanleigh Wow... everyone is invisible
Anubias says, 'Aye...I wasnt here last time.'
Stanleigh Oh.. there you all are.
Lokath says, 'Stan, you may want to join the circle.'
Aellwen says, 'ah'
Edheleth passes out waffles
Sileas waves to Stanleigh.
You say, 'fair enough. If anyone would like to append something to their guild intro-wise to the transcript, just note it on the forums and I'll toss it in =)'
Stanleigh Hello everyone... --- Nathon. LFE... done
Lokath says, 'For the record, is standing on top of people considered rude?'
Kaenwynn munches on some food.
Finleigh says, 'Can I stand on you?'
Anubias says, 'Only in real life or RP...since its OOC, you are fine...:P'
Malkyr says, 'depends, did you wash your feet first?'
Annuiel says, 'Can we make a start?'
Kaenwynn says, 'psh you're rude lokath :P (jk)'
Lokath says, 'Let's all stand on one spot xD'
Daemyn hands lokath a gavel
Lokath hits himself on the head with a gavel. "Yup, it's solid."
Kaenwynn says, 'cheers for being unproductive.'
Aellwen says, 'forget the gavel, hand him a troll's club!'
Sigald | Gonna skip the extended intros this time, but should still take the time to ask if there are any new RP'ers that managed to make it tonight?
Lokath says, 'No, that's Torognif.'
Kaenwynn says, '*waves* I'm new in that I've never been to a summit before!'
Anubias raises his hand. "First time here, if that is what you mean."
Aerhinn raises her hand. "Not new to RP but new to this meeting. Welcome to all from the Marchwardens of Ennorath.
Lokath says, 'I think he meant new to RPing.'
Sileas says, 'I haven't been to a summit either!!!'
Khurgain says, 'Me too'
Arolamir raises his hand as a first time summit attendee.
Lokath Aye. Raise your hand if you are NEW to RPing. In general, not LOTRO, and not to the summit.
Galthien the arrows as awhole i think are new to the summit
Sileas sits down.
Daemyn says, 'well, I suppose I'm pretty new, but I'm getting there...'
Lokath says, 'I don't think we have any new RPers here'
Anubias looks around, shaking his head a negative.
Kaenwynn says, '*points to daemyn* He's new...haze him.'
Finleigh says, 'Depends on your def. of new ;)'
Anubias says, 'lol'
Lokath blinks at Daemyn. "Weren't you not in a kin when you got here?"
Malkyr says, '*hands him a glass with a goldfish* bottoms up mate'
Uthol says, 'May I ask what is the first item on your agenda?'
Sigald nods. | Just didn't want to immediately scare anyone by jumping into the deep end.
Kaenwynn says, 'he wasn't in a kin since he was waiting for an intro to sundry host. He's a redwold member'
Kaenwynn says, '((answering for him as he's making mac and cheese right now))'
Lokath says, 'Um, Lucillia, who is supposed to be running the thing, isn't here yet, soooo...'
Uthol says, 'O'
Stanleigh Shame on her.
Merylvor (She's on her way...lagging)
Lokath says, 'Also, Daggna's on the way.'
Annuiel says, 'Then summon her ;)'
Kaenwynn says, 'Sigald, I can explain anything, we're room mates.'
Kaenwynn says, 'jump right in.'
Sigald nods.
Edheleth sits down.
Kaenwynn sits down.
Langley | While we're waiting for Lucillia to arrive, if anyone would like to step into the center of the circle and address whatever issues or agendas they feel inspired to comment or suggest, feel free. First come first serve . . .
Finleigh laughs out loud.
Lokath says, 'Uh, OK. Pets. Pets are bad in RP situations. Especially bears.'
Anubias looks to Lakath...
Finleigh says, 'Don't be shy or anything Luke..sheesh'
Khurgain says, 'Especially indoors....'
Aellwen says, 'you only dislike bears cuz a lore-master parked his bear's behind in your face while sitting in the pony!'
Lokath says, 'Bears are really bad. Lynx are worse, because then everyone keeps getting the stupid squiggle thing going on.'
Stanleigh raises his hand to be after Lokath
Kaenwynn says, 'are you including all pets in that situation. like captain cohorts or the pets that people rp but aren't really bad.'
Glorenthir begins to smoke.
Your friend, Aymie, has gone offline.
Kaenwynn says, 'but aren't really there...not bad***'
Langley | Stanleigh will have the floor next.
Sigald says, 'Squawky birds...'
Anubias says, 'Actually I like pets to RP with....you are never alone. *Winks*'
Lokath says, 'Um, what I really mean is pets in the Pony. I think butterbur would kick out anyne who brought their bird into the Pony.'
Aellwen says, 'that's true'
You say, 'I would think the sheerly cosmetic pets, like the turtle and the swallow, would be just fine'
Kaenwynn says, 'I agree then.'
Sigald says, 'Minions are good, if you practice positioning them, and | Minion does this, emoting.'
Lokath says, 'And he'd have a seisure if you brought your bear in.'
Uthol says, 'True Lokath'
Malkyr says, 'yeah but the rune rocks are just as bad'
You say, 'but yeah, I could see the issue for the big fight-y pets'
Sileas says, 'poor Butterbur would have an ulcer by now from all the bears running around'
Kaenwynn says, 'I think pets smaller than a lynx would be okay'
Aellwen says, 'oh god, my char literally freaks out every time an RK does that'
Anubias says, 'So basically....no pets indoors in RP situations then? lol'
Lokath says, 'One more issue on the point of Rune Rocks. I'm adamantly against RKs, RP wise.'
Kaenwynn says, 'like someone else said, swallows and turtles, maybe foxes.'
Anubias says, 'Oh lordy...'
Anubias says, 'lol'
Langley | Would the general concensus be inclined to agree that large beasties should only come into play out in the wilds or in big, open spaces?
Lokath says, 'I will actually refuse to RP with RKs who RP casting magic.'
Anubias agrees with Langley
Merylvor says, 'Aye, Lang.'
Elinillanor sits down.
Kaenwynn says, 'aye langley'
Malkyr nods
Maedir says, 'Aye.'
Faolan nods in agreement with Langley
Sigald winks and transforms himself momentarily.
Lokath says, 'Concurr.'
Kaenwynn says, 'we should wait to address rune keepers, that's a big bucket of worms I thjink'
Vashai nods
Uthol says, 'Aye, agreed'
Ardra says, 'I'd say that sounds like a logical idea : )'
You say, 'Agreed'
Sileas says, 'yep'
Annuiel is it not simply possible to suspend disbelief, as with the Lore-Master, or the Minstrel, using words and music as power? There is a distinct basis in lore for that...the Rk, and to a lesser extrent the LM and Minstrel, simply have a more overt form of
Lokath says, 'Go, Nate.'
Sileas says, 'Woohoo!'
Daemyn says, 'I've actually enjoyed rping with RM's that play like they're casting bones. It seems to fit that way'
Anubias says, 'I dont think we should get into a RK discussion....we will get nothing else done.'
Lucillia faints dead away.
Ryislia sits down.
Annuiel says, 'What do we have to discuss of importance then?'
Malkyr says, 'the airspeed or a swallow?'
Aellwen says, 'I think Luci's computer is beating her up again'
Stanleigh Well, I don't have any complaints to make. Rather I'd like to mention that the first issue of the Breeland Journal had been released. I was hoping to bring it up tonite and hopefully see who all may be interested in participating. The first issue was -
Daemyn says, 'European or African?'
Inpeasi | Sigald-RK suggests something... That we come to some sort of compromise on RK's, so we don't end up ignoring people? This is largely the rp leadership.
Sileas says, 'Poor Hero :('
You say, 'I'm with Anubias, the RK's a massive mangle of a class when it comes to RP/lore/immersion'
Lucillia |Sorry I'm late guys. Epic lag fest.
Lokath says, 'Sorry, Nate :P I just totally overshadowed you.'
Ardra - Guys, Luci is here, lets let her take the lead for a bit and leave the RK discussion for a bit later : )
Inpeasi pouts.
Syladara sits down.
Sileas l Yaaay Heros here!!!!
Stanleigh - very small and ccontained very little content, and I would ask that if anyone were interested in sharing information or events about their kinship and would like to set up an appointment, to email me at TFLI@live.com, the floating log inn email -
Lucillia -Nah its okay! keep going lol
Kaenwynn says, 'on runekeepers...I mean, you could make the same argument for minstrels...people shouldn't get ignored.'
Lucillia -Agreed.
Malkyr says, 'I would say take it on a case by case basis'
Inpeasi | I for one am very glad that they were race-restricted to the longer-lived races, as it makes making ic justification easier.
Lucillia |Very true.
Stanleigh - I would also mention that those who work the Breeland Journal do not at all have to be a member of the LFE, and infact I would prefer it that they weren't so I could avoid becoming potentially biast (Which I think I wouldn't but others may think -
Annuiel Speaking of longer-lived races...I would like to see more Sindar!
Lokath | Clarification. I'm not gonna be automatically ignoring any RPing RK, I will just not do it with anyone who says "Oh, now I'm gonna cast my magic fireball spell"
Anubias | No offense to anyone here, but if you ignore someone RP-wise for a class they choose to enjoy the game...that is very poor behavior and not very RP friendly at all....
Maedir says, 'Could we please stop talking about RKs for the time being and listen to what Stan has to say?'
Stanleigh - otherwise. But... I think thats really all I have to say about that. I wanted to discuss it since it is a Community Tool rather than just my kinship alone.
Anubias says, 'Awesome Stan...I will check it out. :)'
Langley | Thank you Stanleigh, and thank you for your contribution to the RP community. Annuiel, would you like to take the floor next?
Inpeasi nods and grins. | Liked the first issue, myself.
Annuiel No :)
Anubias says, 'lol'
Lokath says, 'heh'
Annuiel What I eman is..on what issue?
Lokath says, 'Wanting ot see more Sindar'
Langley | Or the tolerance of Rune Keepers or lack thereof . . .
Lucillia |Should try to find a happy medium..that everyone can accept.
You say, 'Is there a shortage of Sindar?'
Lokath raises his hand. "Can I clarify my point next?"
Annuiel says, 'Very well. For any who don't know my kinship, we are an Elven-only lore-appropriate kinship. That means we do follow the lore as closely as possible (and have a few Sindarin speakers amongst us), and it is somewhat concerning that there are so many Noldor.'
Khurgain says, 'I dunno.... seems dwarves are not that present here, and yet there are many elves. But that's another topic'
Anubias says, '| Really guys...blame Turbine for incorporating RK into the game...not the player that chooses that class. Its not proper behavior to excommunicate a RPer based solely on the class they play...:('
Aellwen says, 'oh I agree'
Lokath says, 'Shuush on the RK thing, I'm gonna clarify in a second.'
Syladara nods
Langley | Yes, Lokath, you'll have the floor next. Also, for those of us not familiar with elven lore, what exactly is a Sindar?
Inpeasi nods to Annuiel | For those not familiar, short version of the difference for people.
Aellwen says, 'when the subject comes up about RK's though I have something to say'
Syladara laughs out loud.
Annuiel says, 'I know the tale of Feanor, and the Noldor in general in awesome..but why do we have such a lot of Elves going about, claiming to be born in Valinor, pure blood Noldor? I suppose what I'm saying is...basically...are there otehrs out there as lore strict? ;)'
Uthol says, 'I must agree, sadly, with Anubias. Truely IC will only notice a dwarf, not the class'
Annuiel says, 'Oh my apologies'
Syladara sits down.
Malkyr says, 'take it case by case, I have an RK that is covetous of his stones and refuses to use them where they can be seen...hes afraid of burglers *glares at the WOld*'
Lokath | Sindar are the "Sylvan" elves, such as those who live in Mirkwood and such. Noldor are the "high" elves.
Annuiel says, 'No no...Sindar and SIlvan are different'
Daggna says, 'the same is said for a true ic dwarf only see an elf and thats it'
Ardra agrees with Annuiel on that definition correction.
Anubias says, 'Sindar is where Sindarin came from...yes?'
You say, 'Close enough'
You say, 'yep'
You say, 'The Silvan split off from the Sindar some time ago in the First Age, and they're by the far the most populace line of elves'
Annuiel says, 'Yes..Sindarin is the language of the Sindar = grey Elves. Noldor went off to Valinor before the First Age, and are essentially very powerful..think Galadriel..and meant to be very rare.'
You say, 'They're still on pretty good terms with the Sindar though, you usually find them living together'
Lokath says, 'And most people should /be/ silvan elves...'
Syladara says, 'Much of this can be solved by encouraging the reading of certain . . . books . . .'
Annuiel says, 'Silvan or Sindar, yes..Silvan are what people call 'wood elves''
Lokath says, 'Legolas was Silvan, right?'
You say, 'yep, or Green elves'
Malkyr says, '-legolas-'
Annuiel says, 'No'
You say, 'Legolas is Silvan, his father is Sindar'
Aellwen says, 'green-elves too would be goodies, they are usually the Lindon kind'
Syladara sighs.
Anubias chuckles
Annuiel says, 'He and his father were Sindar..I think...but rule over the Silvan elves of Mirkwood'
Syladara sits down.
Lokath says, 'Mirkwood elves are Silvan, Rivendell elves are Sindar?'
You say, 'Thranduil is definitely Sindar, Legolas is generally counted as Silvan'
Maedir says, 'Rivendell Elves are Noldor.'
Annuiel says, 'Similiarly...Galadriel is Noldo...Celeborn Sindar..and they rule over the Silvan Elves of Lorien.'
You say, 'it's not a biological distinction so much as a cultural one'
Khurgain starts falling asleep listening to elven stories
You say, 'well, for Silvan/Sindar anyway'
Lucillia chuckles.
Annuiel says, 'Oh god....I'm going to leave it there. Far too big of a job. NM all :)'
Lokath says, 'Yeah, Noldor is basically a seperate race.'
Anubias grins at Annuiel...
Anubias says, 'You have chosen...wisely...'
Malkyr says, 'wait perhaps a thread in a community site to hammer out the details'
Kaenwynn says, 'essentially dont play an elf unless you know the damn lore...'
Lokath says, 'Heh. Yeah, a thread on the forums would be nice.'
Lucillia starts crying.
Annuiel here here!
Lokath says, 'Awww, I like elves.'
Inpeasi | Motion to Post RP-Lore Best-of sticky on the lotro forums?
You say, 'Nah, just expect that there's lots of lore out there on the elves =)'
Langley | So, essentially, this is a call to arms to Sindar and other, less mainstream forms of elves?
Stanleigh coughs out something that sounds sort of like. "www.floatingloginn.com"
Anubias sighs and frowns.
Annuiel Essentially...yes...a little more lore-awareness from the Elven population.
Lucillia chuckles.
Syladara giggles uncontrollably.
Syladara sits down.
Ardra says, 'I do have to say it would be nice for there to be some lore-awareness for Elf players surrounding Elf-human relations. Minor point to add to that post : ).'
Aellwen I believe Malkyr was refering to a GP site called Landroval for the community site
Lucillia |Yes but I think a little tolerace for those who want to play elves, but have limited knowledge, too.
Ardra agrees with Luci.
Langley | Thank you Annuiel for bringing this facet of the elven RP community to light! It is always a pleasure to gain insight into the racial communities outside of the generic man fold, which I rabidly champion.
Annuiel Of course Lucillia...and also, my kinship would be very happy to answer any questions people have about Elven lore also/.
Malkyr says, 'that or one like it that is unaffiliated with any one kin but geared towards the RP community at large'
Lokath says, 'So, the way I stated my last topic made it kind of sound like I was discriminating against RKs. I am in no way doing that. I will certainly RP with any RK who manages to come up with a decent explanation for their skills. I will not accept the definition -'
Lucillia |That's mostly a calender though Aellwen. The forums were removed.
Merylvor |As long as we dont have a noldor who is sleeping with half of Bree's human and hobbit population >.>
Anubias agres with Lucillia
Syladara mutters *encourage the reading of Tolkien* . . .
Lokath - of writing magical words in the air.
Arolamir agrees with Sylandara
Kaenwynn says, '*raises hand* can you put me in line...whoever is keeping track of this rabble?'
Aellwen wants to be after luke
Syladara smiles
Kaenwynn says, 'I call after aellwen.'
Lokath says, 'Also, I've encountered a LM or two who has casted 'magic' spells at me or one of my alts. I didn't quite ignore them, I just RPed completely disbelieving them.'
Lucillia |Okay...Aellwen then Kaen
Malkyr says, 'I have been struck by lightening then jumped by a bear on an alt'
Anubias says, 'Frankly...that his gonna happen no matter how much discussion or arguing occurs here.'
Lokath says, 'Which is how I will respond to ANYONE using what I consider 'magic'.'
Syladara shakes her head, tsking
Aellwen says, 'shocking yet fuzzy'
You say, 'It's a sticky widget, no doubt'
Lokath says, 'I consider magic to be someone saying "Ooh, look magic spells!"'
Daggna says, 'so what your really saying is that minstrel, lms, and rks cant rp their skills'
Lucillia |Yes we got it, Lokath.
Kaenwynn says, 'Magic is part of this universe....regardless of your opinion or dislike of it O.o'
Anubias says, 'So I imagine this all goes under the Roleplaying Philosophy section of the meeting? :D'
Aerhinn says, 'No amount of discussion will chance the variety of playing styles, role playing or not. Perhaps the better issue is how we can improve the rp in our own kins and set an example for the wider game community.'
Merylvor |Minstrels can be RPed as simply very skilled healers. Don't have to be 'magic'
Syladara says, 'hear hear'
You say, 'Well LM and Minstrel can explain thier skills fairly easily without resorting to "magic". Runekeepers... maybe but I'm not sure how off the top of my head'
Anubias says, 'Exactly Aerhinn..'
Lokath says, 'No, LMs and Minstrels have their skills rather adequately explained. Minstrels inspire and demoralize.'
Lokath says, 'LMs use lore.'
Daggna says, 'but not to raze the defeated'
Lokath says, 'RKs write words which create thunderbolts.'
You say, 'Magic is rather -not- a part of this setting, but that's a different topic for a different time'
Malkyr says, 'RK use relics of a long lost age'
Lokath says, 'It's not defeated, just so demoralized that you've given up.'
Lucillia agrees with Aerhinn.
Lokath says, 'you can be remoralized.'
Anubias says, 'Lokath...you are bringing class descriptions into RP, which doesnt belong. In my opinion, you are looking at things the wrong way.'
Lucillia agrees.
Syladara sighs.
Stanleigh agrees.
Kaenwynn sighs and face palms | The point is NOBODY here should be ignoring an Rper, especially not based on class. It's rude.
Daggna says, 'here here'
Anubias agrees with Kaenwynn
Lucillia Exactly.
Annuiel Well thankyou for the meeting. I feel there is little point in our kin being here right now, but we wanted to just let everyone know we exist, and we're always happy to answer lore-based questions, or if someone has an Elf alt that needs a home, or-
Annuiel -would like a lore-apprioriate kin to ally with, or just meet up with, please let us know. Bain sul.
You say, 'I'm not convinced that there's really anyway to smoothly accept RKs into this setting, but players shouldn't be discriminated against based on their class choice either.'
Annuiel bows deeply.
Saelir bows deeply.
Inpeasi | Aellwen was up. Table RK discussion for a seperate committee?
Langley | Would the general concensus inclined to agree that how an individual handles classes or situations they do not find lore appropriate is a decision best left for the individual to make so long as they do not completely ostracise the offending party -
Lucillia |Thanks for coming Annuiel =)
Langley - in question?
Ardra says, 'Namarie, Annuiel.'
Aellwen says, 'ok so on the subject of magic. If you look at Bree's reactions to when say Frodo disappeared'
You say, 'I'd agree with that'
Reddhawk says, 'Actually, I'd say that a runekeeper's magic comes from the rune stones themselves, since a great deal of 'magic' in Tolkien's works manifests itself through certain artefacts (i.e. The Mirror of Galadriel, the Doors of Durin, the One Ring, Sting, etc.)'
Aellwen says, 'bree-landers generally are afraid of magic'
Kaenwynn agreed!
Aerhinn waves discretely. Thanks all. Life calls. Hope to see you again next time.
Syladara sits down.
Aellwen says, 'which is how my char reacts when an LM tosses a fireball around or rune-keepers pop them rocks through the floor'
Lucillia waves. =)
Arion | Agreed Langley.
Maedir waves to everyone.
Lokath raises hand "LM fireballs are nig bunches of kindling set on fire."
Daggna says, 'then they should fear a guardina poping out of know where before a fight'
Aellwen says, 'so when I see real magic being used as RP, my char's own reaction is she is terrified out of her shoes'
Malkyr says, 'so essentially relics of a bygone age Redd?'
You say, 'something like that, and that sounds reasonable Aellwen'
Reddhawk says, 'More or less, that would at least suffice for an explanation I suppose.'
Aellwen says, 'but I think when it comes to RPing certain nationalities, like elves, some research should be done'
Stanleigh doesn't see the point of where this conversation is going. RP biaism based on class is metaplay anyways.
Arion Anyone disagree with what Langley said?
Aellwen says, 'on their traditions, their beliefs and such'
Elinillanor - Not I
Stanleigh Nor I.
Anubias says, 'I would like to say something...when it is my turn.'
Anubias says, 'Whoever is keeping track...:P'
Syladara looks hopefuly at Anubias
Avadrin says, 'Therein lies the rub, unfortunately. Since this is essentially a game, it is difficult to expect that people wanting to play and have a good time will want to study and do research...'
Lokath | Seems I need to reclarify my point. I'm not ignoring people based on class, not even ignoring at all. I'm simply saying that I will RP disbelief with anyone who RPs like they are using magic.
Lokath |That's it! The end!
Syladara nods
Arion | To follow up...this discussion of RK's will go on forever. I think Langley's comment is appropriate. Anyone disagree withn it?
Kaenwynn my turn?
Syladara says, 'Good point Arolamir'
Syladara says, 'I think Langley is wise'
Ardra - Could Langley repeat it, I missed it in the scroll : )
Stanleigh No... next topic on hand?
Inpeasi | Lead by example, caster classes have a responsibility especially to lead by example. Next?
Lokath says, 'Sure. I'll just keep my stupid mouth shut from now on.'
Ardra nods.
Lucillia | Yes. Let's turn to a new topic. If aellwen has spoken (having info overload so hard to tell) Kaen should go next.
Kaenwynn looks around| Anyone mind if I throw a quick lore thing out there?
Anubias says, 'Please dont Lokath. :)'
Kaenwynn says, 'On elves...I saw sigald bring this up and I'm sorry I have to do it too. They aren't sex fiends. Please don't play them as such....><'
Malkyr cheers at Starry Chandelier.
Malkyr says, 'thank you!'
Lucillia chuckles.
Kaenwynn says, 'I dont know if anyone here is necessarily guilty of that...but I have seen it done and it's obnoxious.'
Lucillia agrees.
Vashai nods
Ardra agrees with Kaenwynn. Good point for some lore-education stickies.
Anubias says, 'lol'
You agree.
Stanleigh shakes his head at Lokath. "That is what this summit is for, Lokath, discussion and debate. You're doing just fine."
Merylvor says, 'Or Elves who have affairs with humans....multiple humans...'
Kaenwynn says, 'That's uh....all I really got for you guys.'
Ciriel boggles.
Lucillia says, 'lol'
You say, 'Lore-wise, their libidos is notoriously low, which makes sense for an immortal race'
Lokath says, 'Oooh! Can I not keep my mouth shut for another point?'
Syladara says, '?me shakes her head, sighing.'
Ardra - They're essentially monogomous so... agreed on my part : ).
Lokath says, 'Is anyone else queued to go up?'
Avadrin agrees with Merylvor.
Lucillia |And affairs with humans are VERY rare.
Anubias says, 'I would still like to say something....whenever'
Stanleigh feels like coughing up a certain female elf's name that starts with an "A" but decides that is in bad taste and is possibly rude.
Lokath says, 'Heh'
Syladara laughs out loud.
Merylvor | Three recorded cases...ever
Galadannun says, 'on that same note, what of people RPing half'elves. The offspring of man/elf unions should not be RPed either'
Syladara sits down.
Lucillia nods.
Lokath says, 'And don't RP man/elf unions, either. *thinks of two certain people*'
Kaenwynn mutters something about humans being okay to rp...and perhaps more people should do so.
You say, 'Yeah, it's one of the few things Tolkien's pretty clear about'
Malkyr says, '-very- clear about'
Reddhawk says, 'I tend to disagree. I think halfelves and Man-elf unions are fine, if kept to a minimum.'
Aellwen does a flip!
Lokath says, 'I think not. There were 3 in over 10,000 years of history.'
Stanleigh feels like caughing up a half elf's name who starts with a "D" but decides that is in bad taste and/or is rude.
Uthol says, 'the key word is minimum'
Ardra - I think the key is to encourage player responsbility with such stories rather than ignore/forbid them.
Reddhawk says, 'Actually 4, but that's a matter of debate'
Ciriel | But who gets to be the exceptions? Do we assume an arbitrary quota? Everyone likes to be special, so...
You say, 'but then we're in to how strictly we want to about to the lore. It's one thing for Heavy RPers who are willing and able to find this sort of stuff out. It may be another for light RPers who have only a very casual familiarity'
Lucillia |Slow down guys, One at a time.
Inpeasi They are....rare. But should be dissuaded, rather than condemned.
Kaenwynn nods in agreement wiht Arolamir: Aye...but just to remind everyone present ^^
Stanleigh Except that there is no such thing as a half elf. Elrond is the offspring of an elf and a human, and he is still an ELF. There is no inbetween.
Syladara says, 'Shoulds are interesting though . . . gentle education is a good thng say I. Like the aforementioned encouragement for the newer players to read Tolkein. It would solve so much of this I think.'
Finleigh pulls out a bag of popcorn.
Syladara looks longingly at the popcorn.
Ardra - Perhaps some unified work in the community to put together easy-access lore resources on these issues could be helpful.
You say, 'If they're willing to get through the Silmarillion =)'
Sileas reaches for popcorn...
Anubias says, 'Look folks...we are gonna argue all day about RP Lore this and that...and really its pointless to do so except within your own kin and close rp relationships. There are WAY to few people here to make any discussion on 'Lore' beneficial.'
Lokath says, 'I'd also suggest the use of Wikipedia as a resource. It's really trustworthy now, I've not read anything that wasn't true there.'
Syladara laughs out loud.
Reddhawk says, 'As for the comment about Elrond, he IS a halfelf, and is even referred to as such. :)'
You say, 'there are some great resources online that make good lore references though. Tolkien Gateway for instance'
Syladara says, 'Wikipedia??'
Syladara laughs out loud.
Finleigh offers popcorn to Sil and Syl :D
Syladara sits down.
Aellwen says, 'hobbits have such cute laughs'
Sileas totally om nom noms the popcorn
Syladara takes popcorn, grinning
Galthien says, 'he is a half elf but is considered an elf bacuase he choose to be as his brohter choose to be human'
Inpeasi sighs at Esslar. | I've got a upper-division Tolkien class at my University, but we really need to condense things to a set of links for people, I think.
Ciriel pokes Ramblis.
Lucillia |Agreed. I think we should probably move the heavy lore discussions to a forum topic. I don't know about some of you but I'm getting info overloaded here lol
Syladara nods
Malkyr says, 'agreed Luci, how about something we can discuss....Crime, punishment and consequence?'
Reddhawk says, 'Indeed, no disputing that, but the title of halfelf still applies. Technically he wasn't exactly half either, but yet the title appears.'
Inpeasi glances at Arion.
Lokath says, 'Ooh! yay!'
Aellwen says, 'yeah good idea Mal!'
Edheleth is logging this, and will post if anyone wants
Anubias says, 'I think what should really be discussed here is our kinships and the rp opportunities we have with one another...at least for one thing.'
Lokath tackles Luci and kaenwynn
Stanleigh agrees with Reddhawk. "You are correct, but what I mean is there is no subspecies, half-elf. The offspring of elf and man were given the choice to live an immortal life of an elf, or a mortal life of a human."
Lucillia |First, I'll give the floor to annbias since he asked.
Inpeasi shoves Arion into the middle of the circle.
Ardra agrees with Luci.
Syladara likes the idea of posting this
Esslar has been logging from the start and will be recording transcript into LoR for posterity.
Lucillia |Then we can talk about crime and punishement or whatever.
Aellwen cheers.
Langley | On the issue of lore, which encompasses a great deal of controversy, I would again suggest that the freedom of the individual on both sides of the fence should be noted. If a given individual offends you, then quietly avoid them or work around them.
Lokath says, 'The last one was at the Library of the Randirim, still is, and this one will be too.'
Merylvor cheers at Arion.
Inpeasi pokes Arion. Hey!
Khurgain says, 'Go with what we can do with what we have and not what we should tell people who wont even consult us...'
Syladara seems to be wondering deeply about comfy chairs
Arion twitches.
Arolamir My two coppers: There alot about this game we can discuss, but can not effect. RK's are here to stay, Bears in inns, armies of Noldo.. but what can we put a standard on? we can't force people to do anything. Is there a topic we can put a standard?
Sileas eats more popcorn
Aellwen says, 'I think we are breaking poor Arion'
Lucillia laughs.
Lokath says, 'I would like to make a motion. I move that Arion gets some real clothes.'
Anubias says, 'I have already interjected what was on my mind...lol...sorry I couldnt wait.'
Syladara laughs out loud.
Syladara sits down.
Lucillia says, 'lol oh you did...drat lol'
Anubias says, 'I will repeat though...'
Inpeasi transforms for the next topic.
Anubias says, ':P'
Aellwen says, 'you kidding? Arion was born in plate armor. it's his birthday suite'
Lucillia says, '<.< was about to give you the floor, must of missed it.'
Stanleigh raises his hand to take the floor.
Arolamir Not trying to be rude at all and sorry if it came that way. Just meant like timeline issues... etc.
Syladara also raises her hand politely
Anubias says, 'I think we should drop all Lore convo and continue with more 'constructive' topics...'
Lucillia Go for it Stan.
Khurgain says, 'Yep'
Arion | Seconds what Annubias said.
Stanleigh is NOW the CENTER of attention... alright... -
Lokath says, 'Yes. No more Lore. Because there /are/ light and non light RPers.'
Esslar thought that's what we were doing.
Lokath stares directly at Stan
Syladara attends politely
Anubias turns his attention to Stan.
Sileas stops eating popcorn and looks at stan
Uthol attempts to prompt Stan to talk
Finleigh throws popcorn at Stan.
Stanleigh - As Arion had said what standards can we make, I think that there are many we can make if we as a community discuss debate, and build ideas together with the thoughts of each individual, which is why I was wanting to make known, the -
Malkyr raises his hand to Luci "when he is done"
Lucillia nods.
Uthol sits down.
Stanleigh - www.floatingloginn.com premium domain and community RP site is now accessible, and while it has been for a while, not much news has been spread of it. I understand that this has been done in the past, such as old landroval.org (which was sadly -
Esslar raises a hand to motion after Malkyr.
Lokath says, 'Quick statement. Send all requests to speak to Lucillia, and she can send them out in order.'
Lokath says, 'er, suggestion, if, Luci approves.'
Lucillia Sure that's fine....
Lokath says, 'Use /tells'
Kaenwynn sits down.
Ardra gives props to Luci for moderating : )
Anubias says, 'Cool Stan. Another RP community site never hurts...:)'
Stanleigh - abandoned without anyone having the opportunity to purchase it or work admin rights) I just want people to keep in mind, that it may be a place where we can better organize our thoughts that would pertain to the Role Player's COmmunity rather than -
Stanleigh - landroval community as a whole.
Stanleigh Okay... I'm done now.
Anubias claps for Stanleigh.
Syladara claps her hands.
Finleigh claps for Stanleigh.
Sileas cheers, throwing popcorn around
Edheleth claps her hands.
Lokath cheers.
Syladara sits down.
Edheleth sits down.
Lucillia nods. Sounds good. Okay your up Malk
Ardra - It'd be nice if an effort could be made to help Stan keep a link to the Floating Log on the Lotro forums, just to keep people aware : )
Lokath says, 'cops and robbers time.'
Sigald salutes Malkyr.
Syladara shudders, worried about the robbers
Malkyr says, 'ok what I have to discuss is something that affects a few things, yes crime punishment and consequence'
Lokath bows deeply before Malkyr.
Anubias agrees with Ardra...."Be creative and dont just type: *BUMP*"
Lucillia nods and then turns back to Malkyr.
Kaenwynn says, 'where do you want to start there?'
Malkyr says, 'we have a Chief Justice...Arion and he has his "staff" Sigald...he also technically has the Watchers under his command'
Lokath points at Lucillia, Langley, and Radcliffe. "Watch out for those fellows, Hobbit."
Malkyr says, 'thats one hand'
Lucillia rumbles hands together evilly.
Lokath says, 'Oh, and me.'
Malkyr says, 'on the other hand we have the Redwold and thier kind'
Malkyr says, 'er their'
Sigald launches into a violent tantrum towards Langley!
Ciriel sits with Daggna.
Merylvor launches into a violent tantrum towards Sigald!
Lokath shakes his fist angrily at Langley!
Kaenwynn giggles and drinks.
Malkyr says, 'and in between we have a jail no real way to use it'
Anubias says, 'O.o'
Kaenwynn says, 'Can I throw something out there for punishments?'
Faolan looks to either side of himself and wonders what's in the water...
Lokath says, 'Yeah, any time anyone gets arrested they immediately break out.'
Anubias says, 'I seem to remember one of my characters locked up in jail and it worked fairly well...'
Lucillia nods to Kaen.
Ramblis sits with Ciriel.
Uthol says, 'I think I walked in on that'
Lokath says, 'Luci was arrested 2 days in a row, got out immediately each time.'
Lucillia says, 'yeah it does, i've been there on several ocassions lol'
Anubias says, '...by the Watchers.'
Radcliffe says, 'Actually that is not the case Lokath, the Watch is currently holding a 'wold.'
Lokath says, 'Oh, right, your daughter.'
Kaenwynn says, 'Sweet. First off Tolkien = Midieval. So...we can't use that as a platform for our punishment/crime system. I propose, since I've found nothing substantial regarding lore in this respsect, we establish our own.'
Ryislia sits with Malkyr.
Lucillia |And I got out either because I served my time. Got lashes or picked the lock because someone forgot to search me ;)
Kaenwynn says, 'I meant to say DOES NOT EQUAL'
Kaenwynn says, '*face palms*'
Ardra agrees with Kaen's proposition, mispel aside hehe.
Lokath says, 'Also, some of the people have been getting the idea that Bree is a democratic society. Lol, not.'
Langley says, 'An interesting fact is that while the Wolds are willing to allow themselves to be captured, few if any of the gallants have ever fallen into our clutches. Granted, we are the underdogs, but it would be nice to match a capture with a capture.'
Edheleth mutters No one expects the Spanish Inquisition! and giggles
Stanleigh agrees with Kaen as well.
Lokath says, 'Hey, you have wickit kidnapped.'
Lucillia agrees with lang
Langley says, 'Woclot dpesm'
Radcliffe says, 'WIckit is not a Gallant.'
Sigald nominates Lokath to be kidnapped repeatedly.
Lucillia says, 'Someone higher up'
Lokath says, 'Eep.'
Anubias says, 'This sounds like individual kin rp?...yes? no?'
Lucillia says, 'Like Arion mayhap.....>;)'
Lokath says, 'don't kidnap me, I'm just a vigilante.'
Kaenwynn says, 'more importantly, kidnapping wickit was planned between wickit's player and myself (my alt is Wulf)'
Langley | Oops, Wickit doesn't count! We kidnap here all the time . . .
Avadrin feels like she's missing halves of conversations...
Radcliffe says, 'Enough, back to the topic of crime and punishment, eh?'
Lokath says, 'Also, I was in Luci's clutches and she chose not to kidnap me - just tied me to a tree.'
Aellwen says, 'Mal sometimes types slow'
Aellwen says, 'like Arion'
Sigald nods.
Stanleigh raises his hand to Langley "Pick me! Capture me!"
Kaenwynn says, 'and all it did was get my character jailed...lol.'
Kaenwynn says, 'Agrees with cliffe*'
Langley | But yes, back to this hypothetical system of /crime/ and punishment.
Malkyr says, 'ok thre is a thread on the wold forums//we should coordinate there and get it hammered out'
Lokath raises a hand.
Malkyr says, 'if that is ok with Langley'
Ardra - Hey guys, I think I am, in fact missing some /says. I think Langley's earlier idea to speak in emotes may be helpful to resolve this. Minor suggestion hehe.
Aellwen says, 'aye, I gave Arion some punishment suggestions'
Kaenwynn says, 'we've been discussing it so far.'
Aellwen says, 'on there'
Kaenwynn says, 'I think we should do a re-education program...if death is not an option'
Langley | Or even on Stan's floating log site, to further consolidate the community.
Ardra agrees with Langley.
Malkyr says, 'now there is another issue'
Anubias agrees with Langley
Sigald | Suggestion that a hashed out crime/punishment consensus be posted to the larger community?
Malkyr says, 'i believe its been requested that we use clubs....'
Lucillia |Yes perhaps we should move it there. I could trasnsfer what we have on the Redwold boards to a thrread on the Floating Log.
Lokath already uses clubs
Esslar notes that once a conclusion is reached, LoR's a good place to note it for future reference as well.
Arion nods in agreement with Luci's idea.
Kaenwynn says, 'I made the request for clubs because all too often I keep getting taken in by bloodthirsty watchers...Last time someone kicked my character in the ribs when their hands and feet were bound, which seemed a little...malicious'
Lucillia throws a large tuna at Lokath.
Arolamir PUblic lashings? Stonings? Like the poor fellow that been beaten for two years for burning the farm?
Kaenwynn says, 'lmao arolamir.'
Lucillia |Yes exactly Arol lol
Sigald nods. | People have been....justifiably reticent to take hits from Arrows and Axes.
Lokath says, 'Aellwen got rid of lashings.'
Lucillia cheers.
Langley | Agreed, Siggie! We should all put in our ten coppers on a consolidated thread, then put it to vote when the alternatives are hashed out.
Malkyr says, 'which I have done, but I stopped when it was ignored when someone got struk and took no accont of it...as for bloodthirsty watchers...oocly let us know who and they will be dealt with'
Lokath says, 'And thumbscrews :D'
Sigald | Clubs/Saps/Catchpoles are easier for folk to take a blow.
Kaenwynn says, 'Thanks Mal, I'll keep an eye on it in the future.'
Aellwen says, 'you can notify me, Mal or Lethiah'
Aellwen says, 'we are the three officers in the watchers'
Langley | And bloodthirsty watchers should be welcomed! They add striking humanity to the otherwise pristine face of the Watch.
Malkyr says, 'I just ask that we do not get totally ignored if we do have to use the clubs'
Kaenwynn raises hand* I am more than willing to take blows from things that won't permadeath my character!
Lucillia agrees with lang
Syladara raises hand to be as next as is easy to be
Lucillia |And there's a good place to put Ardra! She wants to talk about Permadeath things
Merylvor Aye same...I have taken many blows from the watch
Avadrin looks at Ardra.
You say, 'Just along the same lines as the Floating Log Inn page, I just wanted to make sure that everyone was aware of the Library of the Randirim (LoR).'
Malkyr ponders who is doing all the striking of blows
Arolamir I would think that would be coordinated between the players. /tell joe ((Can I beat you with a club and have you scream about it?)) /tell bill ((Sure I'll follow you))
Ardra lets Esslar finish : )
Anubias says, 'Can we get an address for the Floating Log please?'
Lucillia agrees with Arol
Syladara agrees
Lokath says, 'www.floatingloginn.com'
Anubias says, 'Thanks'
You say, 'This is a site that's been about for a bit as a Wiki dedicated specifically to the RP Community on this server. It's located at http://library.randirim.org'
Kaenwynn nods in agreement| Hey! Same thing about putting knives to our throats and then not letting us get out of it!
Lokath says, 'LoR is library.randirim.org, I think.'
Sigald | On the notion of permadeath, one question. Anyone have any idea when namechanges are coming back?
Stanleigh Oh, yes... LoR, library of the Randirim is a great place for posting stories and lore and what not. Its listed as an affiliate on the floatingloginn website.
Malkyr says, 'they are back'
Kaenwynn waves happy flag* yay! name changes!
Aellwen says, 'I think I would actually prefer using the Randirim library over that other site. It seems far more active and more organized'
You say, 'It's there for stories, OOC standards, notes, bits of lore, art, etc. Anything we might wanna share, store, and or collaborate.'
Faolan |They're back, Sigald.
Ardra - They are back. Let me know when you're done Esslar and I'll chime in my two cents hehe.
Sigald nods to Esslar and updates his bookmarks.
Malkyr whats the site for Randirim?
Lokath says, 'I don't like the idea of having to /pay money/ to keep playing this guy RPwise.'
Ferregar waves. This is his first RP summit, so love him gnetle D:
Langley | Aye, it an extreme measure to take. I've done it, and I don't recommend it . . .
You say, 'And that's about it =P But if anyone ever has any questions about LoR, feel free to PM, IM, email, etc me'
Lokath says, 'Sorry, I'm being forced off of the computer at Midnoight, I'd really like to speaknow.'
Syladara raises hand again
Syladara puts hand back down
Merylvor |Aye, so have I. Only do it if you're absolutely sure that you're ready to give your character up *Sobs at little @ Langley*
Aellwen raises her hand to be next "got one other idea to pop out there"
Ardra looks to Luci. Lok can go if she says its cool.
Finleigh says, 'Syl's been waiting for a turn to speak...'
Malkyr thinks "I have permadeathed 5 toons this month alone"
Lucillia OKay, Lokath go and then Ardra
Lokath says, 'Sorry.'
Kaenwynn applauds Malkyr.
Lucillia No worries, speak your piece.
Ardra smiles and nods.
Lokath says, 'Just wanted to bring up the subject of little old me in relation to the crime and punishment thing.'
Langley | Speak your piece, then Syl, you're up!
Lucillia Ardra, then Syl
Syladara grins gratefully
Lucillia or something lol
Lucillia |Anyway, continue Lokath.
Lokath says, 'I've been working as a vigilante of sorts, and I was wondering how people approve/disprove of that, and really what the watch/Arion/Sigald thinks of that.'
You say, 'oooh, good question'
Aellwen says, 'I can answer for the watch'
Malkyr says, 'well icly...Mal is waiting for you to do something illegal in the comission of your "mission"'
Ardra - I know several in Lokath's same RP situation, so they'll be interested in this.
Kaenwynn says, 'From a brigands stand point I think it's fine as long as you explain why your character does things...If they seem corrupt in their actions explain their thinking a little so your not just stabbing us willy nilly and claiming to do it for justice.'
Lokath says, 'Will you guys get pissed off at me if I up and start clubbing at Langley in broad daylight? Or if I end up dragging Valahn in dead?'
Aellwen says, 'honestly, we are short on manpower. so citizens helping subdue suspects is always welcomed. However as long as the helper follows our regulations, all is good'
Stanleigh Valahn is dead... his head is mounted over Nathon's supper table.
Malkyr says, 'but...if you do drag someone in dead you may end up facing charges in front of Arion'
Langley | I'd be pleased.
Arion | *shrugs* The more the merrier I say. Just be willing to face the consequences of your actions.
Lokath says, 'Valahn is dead? Why wasn't I made aware of this?'
Stanleigh is totally kidding though.
Lucillia |Yes agreed. As long as you follow some sort of guide...like following the Watch's lead or what have you. That is fine in my book.
Reddhawk says, 'I would think vigilantes would be quite common in Bree, since Tolkien specifically states that there is no government and no police force.'
Lokath says, 'Awww...'
Sigald shrugs. | Depends on whether someone complains...as far as Sigald goes. You'll have to...erm...look to Arion for the honorable super law abiding point of view. XD
Anubias doesnt have any idea what anyone is talking about...:D
Aellwen says, 'red has a point'
Syladara smiles as if she does know
Kaenwynn says, 'I'll prob. follow Arion's juristiction as well in this respect.'
Kaenwynn says, 'well and langley's of course.'
Anubias says, 'Are Rangers considered vigilantes?'
Kaenwynn says, 'Rangers are just badass...'
Stanleigh says, 'Of course not...'
Lucillia | lol
Anubias says, 'Thank you Kaenwynn...:D'
Syladara says, 'how could they be?'
Ardra - I think that would depend on what they do hehe.
Sigald | Strangely enough, probably yes. There is lore supporting the general populace not trusting them...
Langley | From the perspective of the Redwolds, we look forward to encountering both vigilantes and Watchmen alike and treat them with equal disdain.
Esslar agrees with Kaen
Stanleigh Rangers are the Shaolin Monks of Eriador.
Syladara lol
Lokath says, 'One last question. How far does the jurisdiction of the Watch extend? Where does a criminal have to get to be "safe"?'
Merylvor | lol perfect analogy Stan
Kaenwynn says, 'yay more conflict! Now there are no shortage of people to let beat the crap out of my characters. *evil grin*'
Merylvor |I think the watchers are just in Bree and the surrounding area
Sigald points Faolan at Kaenwynn.
Malkyr *beats the crap outa Kaewynns characters*
Syladara nods
Galthien says, 'well with the soveriegn order of the red arrows having pledged their aid to the watch there really is no jurisdictional limit'
Lokath says, 'Bree-land in it's entirety?'
Langley | My two coppers would have me believe that their jurisdiction extends as far as they make it. Out of sight, out of mind, in most cases.
Faolan glances over to the man and makes a mental note of his description and bearing.
Sigald Bree-town, and the surrounding villages, I'd imagine.
Harbryt hails Syladara.
Syladara bows deeply before Harbryt.
Lokath says, 'Because I was with the Watch chasing someone, and the moment they got outside the gate they immediately said "I'm totally safe now!"'
Ardra - Since they're not a government body, their jurisdiction would be rather nebulous I imagine hehe.
Anubias says, 'Just as a note...Anubias will never consider the Watchers of Bree as having political or marshal jurisdiciton over him...*Winks*'
Aellwen says, 'currently, the watcher's main area of influence is bree-land, lone lands and north downs'
Ryislia sits down.
Kaenwynn says, 'Huh. No that's not cool - running out of bree and claiming to be safe'
Aellwen says, 'the arrows be our eyes and ears in the other regions'
Lokath says, 'D'yoyu guys have any sort of agreement with the Bounders?'
Lucillia |Ah, okay. Good to know.
Arion | I'll make a post on Inn board delinating jurisdiction and asking for comments. Will that work for all?
Kaenwynn says, 'however, I would like an okay way for us to escape if we don't want to be captured....Smokebombs and such.'
Reddhawk says, 'Going with the "no police force" thing, I would think the Watch would have no real jurisdication, meaning that they are free to pursue criminals as far as they like. Though i'd imagine they'd stick close to Bree, more often than not.'
Sigald | But I'd consider it not so much a demarked line, as...how far out they're willing to pursue. Note all the bandit camps in the woods.
Malkyr says, 'well thats what we try, but the Red Arrows do the majority of that in the area outside bree and the immediate area'
Aellwen says, 'we haven't ICly talked to the bounders yet'
Langley | In the case that someone claims that, I'd encourage the Watcher's to beat them silly ICly. There's no invisible wall protecting us from them so long as they have a club in hand and a will to use it.
Lokath says, 'I hate those smokebombs.'
Aellwen says, 'but that is one agenda still on our planning stages'
Ferregar | I have to go very soon. Do you mind if I add something into the conversation before I do?
Lucillia \ @.@ um go
Kaenwynn says, 'aye I'm not stoked about smokebombs either...but for those of us who don't want to go to jail *shuts up for Ferre*'
Syladara sighs
Syladara raises her hand again
Langley | Syl was up first, Ferregar.
Ramblis laughs at Syladara.
Ferregar says, 'Sorry for the interruption. I've noticed a few things recently'
Ramblis sits with Galthien.
Ferregar says, 'Er. go ahead x_x'
Syladara laughs out loud.
Lucillia faints and motions to go ahead.
Anubias says, 'Ardra was actually next I think...'
Lucillia says, 'yup'
Syladara laughs
Sigald cheers at Syladara.
Langley | If there is time afterwards then you may proceed. Also, if you send your observations via tells to either myself or Lucillia, we can pass them on for you.
Ferregar waves to everyone.
Syladara says, 'this wil be very quick'
Ardra - Syl can go, its cool.
Ardra - I actually have two topics to bring up so no worries.
Syladara I think the raid on Fornost was a wonderful thing, and the march to Moria too
Lokath says, 'Yay!'
Syladara I would love to see more inter-kin cooperation for fun because for me that is much of the joy of this place we all inhabit
Lokath says, 'All in favor of more massive open to everyone RP events?'
Lokath says, 'Aye.'
Sigald cheers at Syladara.
Khurgain says, 'Hear, hear'
Ardra agrees with Syl.
Kaenwynn says, 'Aye!'
Arolamir agrees
Anubias says, 'Agreed'
Merylvor cheers at Syladara.
Harbryt agrees with Syladara.
Uthol says, 'Aye'
Aellwen says, 'I will agree to that'
You agree.
Faolan nods in agreement.
Syladara the Rohirrim loved these events, and we are hoping to have our own yearly Festival of the Horse son too
Arion *nods in agreement and looks at all the kin leaders here* :)
Lucillia laughs.
Lokath says, 'I'm actually planning something myself, too. One of my alts, becuase Ihave an area in mind and Luke doesn't leave Bree.'
You say, 'The Randirim should fit perfectly into all that, as soon as there's an event where I won't be at work or in class =P'
Langley scratches at the scruff of her neck, "Can't vouch for the Woldies, we often have very little reason to play nice with others. However, I do encourage it."
Faolan wishes Radcliffe would take something for that and stop spreading it around... ;)
Syladara Please contact Captain Oweyn of the Rohirrim or myself later if you wish to coordinate more of these because they ROCK. ahem. I am done.
Syladara bows deeply.
Yusraa sits down.
Sigald cheers at Syladara.
Harbryt congratulates Syladara for a job well done.
Lokath says, 'Quick, Ardra! Before anyone else takes your slot!'
Lucillia | I will play nice... <.< *twidles thumbs*
Anubias says, 'lol'
Avadrin gives Ardra a shove forward. =)
Lucillia laughs.
Lokath shakes his fist angrily at Ardra!
Anubias says, 'Can I say something? :P'
Lokath says, 'No! Be quiet!'
Lokath scolds Anubias.
Ardra - Hehe. Okay, first to chime in a short note on the bree-watch/jurisdictions issue, concerning Rangers, I'd love to chat with other members of the community who play characters taht are part of the actual "Rangers of the North" unit. Grey Company or it
Anubias says, 'I declare this Official 'Break in front of Ardra' day!'
Ardra - its subsidiaries. It jsut makes sense all of us RPing to be part of that unit should be on the same page. Probably a good topic for Floating Logg Inn.
Sigald pokes Faolan. Hey!
Lokath says, 'All you Ranger people, talk with each other.'
Lokath says, 'Geez, get some tissues.'
Aellwen says, 'people need some hankerchiefs'
Ardra - Concerning the other topic I wanted to discuss, I'd like to bring up the issue of permadeathing.
Harbryt steps away from the infected.
Faolan decides to mix up a nice little 'concoction' to take care of Radcliffe's...illness...
Esslar makes a note to get a mop on the floor sometime this evening.
Lucillia laughs.
Aellwen says, 'll'
Aellwen says, 'lol'
Lokath says, 'That was cool.'
Finleigh says, '...'
Kaenwynn says, 'omg amazing who was that?!'
Anubias says, 'lol'
Kaenwynn says, 'do it again!!!'
Merylvor says, '>.>'
Ardra - I've seen a disturbing trend amongst RPers in fights that they seem to feel they have a 'right' to permadeath others characters. In truth, I'd say OOC courtesy has to win out there. I did a post on this in the thread Luci will be copying to the
Ciriel sits down.
Lokath says, 'Do it again, I want a screenie.'
Ardra - floating log.
Khurgain says, 'Get it on video'
Sigald says, '(( tell me someone screenshotted ))'
You say, '((got it (prolly)))'
Aellwen says, 'lol'
Faolan says, '((I got the kneeling))'
Anubias says, 'ok..ok...we are being rude to Ardra.'
Lokath says, 'Got one! I'll put it on LoR.'
Anubias says, 'Please stop...*pats them all on the head*'
Kaenwynn tries to be serious...Mumbles and grumblesa bout permadeathing.
Ardra - I just want to chime in to people to remember OOC courtesy first when in fights... and know that permadeathing should not be done without the other player's express permission.
Lucillia agrees.
Merylvor agrees.
Kaenwynn says, 'I have a question on that!'
Langley concurs.
Aellwen nods
Sigald nods. | I think the issue largely is a sideeffect of the rather deadly weapons in play, and deplorable lack of first-rate trauma centers.
Ardra looks to Kaen : )
Lokath says, 'Uh, don't permadeath people without their express permission. Generally, don't even try to permadeath someone unless they /ask/ you to. don't bring up the subject.'
Anubias says, 'Wow...this has really been happening?'
Kaenwynn says, 'So...arguably if a redwold is captured we aren't killed in the act of capture, but unless we escape the only real option for us is death.'
Anubias says, 'O>O'
Anubias says, 'O.O*'
Kaenwynn says, 'so...what are we supposed to do besides escape or throw a smokebomb'
Lucillia nods.
Sigald | <~ Feels a responsibility to aim his...nastier weapons for areas that wouldn't instagib.
Anubias says, 'I think Ardra's point is to work it out with your RP adversaries...'
Lokath says, 'DECAPITATION!'
Aellwen says, 'yep it did happen to Malkyr, he had a burgler char he loved almost permadeathed by the watcher's former leader'
Kaenwynn says, 'and then folks complain about us always escaping or throwing smokebombs, but really! If you capture us and bring us to the jail we will die!'
Lokath giggles as he remembers the caravan test run.
Ardra - I think alot of this stuff needs to be worked out OOC even if it breaks immersion for a moment. And go easy on people when they react to a lethal move by getting a non-lethal wound hehe.
You agree with Ardra.
Ardra agrees with kaen.
Lucillia agrees.
Anubias says, 'If that is the relationship your two kins have, fine...but respect other RPers, by asking first...'
Sigald | The attacker has a responsibility to leave wiggle room, so that folk won't be forced to smokebomb or die.
Malkyr says, 'on a screwy 8 armed machine-gun shooting fool'
Syladara the first rule of improv is to play along, never say no, just a different "yes"
Lucillia agrees with Sigald.
Ardra agrees with Sigald.
Lokath says, 'Also, there's nothing wrong with going to jail and taking a break with RPing for a while.'
Ciriel says, 'I don't see how any PC has the right to permadeath another, even the nemesis level mobs in this game don't kill you, just defeat you.'
Langley | Shameless plug here, but I do have a character who has a long history of running his own chop clinic in Bree-town. More information soon to be found at floating log!
Kaenwynn says, 'um unless the person doesn't want to take a break from RPing'
Kaenwynn says, 'I mean, that's not really up to the other players'
Ciriel sits down.
Lokath says, 'Rp another character.'
Ardra - Jarys actually sewed a non-lethal wound up there yesterday Lang lol.
Ramblis sits down.
Lucillia HUh exactly. Some people have 1 char.
Ardra - So thank you!
Kaenwynn says, 'Im fine wth how long Wulf has been in jail cause I've had finals but I mean, that's just kind of a rude expectation'
Ardra - That's all from me, just wanted to chime in that topic.
Lucillia | So staying in prison for a week would be a drag.
Kaenwynn says, 'especially if it was over break or something'
Avadrin claps for Ardra.
Sigald nods. | If you're doing something that'll get you killed or arrested....might expect /some/ consequence, though.
Lokath says, 'You can still go and level the character, just don't RP with them.'
Malkyr says, 'hence the point of consequence...if you run throught a city and just hack at people...you have to reasonably expect to have a problem...'
Ciriel Agrees!
Ardra agrees with Sig again.
Anubias says, 'I think Permadeath should never happen in impromptu RP...its different if the Redwolds and the Watchers already have something worked out.'
Lokath says, 'Exactly.'
Lucillia | OK. I believe Cireiel wanted to say something. Then Mery.
Reddhawk says, 'I'd suggest having more corrupt members of the watch or other Bree groups that would routinely find excuses to set prisoners free and downplay their crimes.'
Arolamir Again I would think this would be rp asks rper issue. /tell Joe "Mind if I arrest your character and take him to jail?" /tell bill "Not today I have another kin event after this"
Sigald | On the other hand, if you go chasing after Langley, take some time to consider how long you want to lay in bed recovering. XD
Kaenwynn says, 'which is why I'm sitting in jail, but by the same coin, when a certain few people tried to arrest us in the Pony the other day, all we were doing was drinking. I'm not going to have my alt sit in jail for drinking...'
Anubias says, 'I, for one, will never allow you to Permadeath my characters....only I as a writer may do that.'
Aellwen says, 'there's something I'd like to also say after Ciriel'
Ciriel says, 'Okay, I know a lot of you don't know me - I've been very focused on questing and lore. But I hope to know you all better soon.'
Langley | ./innocence_on
Malkyr says, 'who did that Kaen?'
Ciriel says, '"A note with regard to the earlier issue about rp compliance with law and order. You could, when posting summaries and information about this system of justic on the Landroval official forums, add an agreed-upon tagline or comment to place in one's bio...'
Lucillia |Cirel, Mery, Aellwen
Sigald cheers at Ciriel.
Uthol says, 'Perhaps special notations in the Bio page could suggest the character is 'Permadeathable "'
Ramblis agrees.
Ciriel says, 'that states compliance with the system. Something like [RP Justice ok] or whatever would immediately tell you if you're dealing with someone who's going to play within the scenario.'
Elinillanor - that's brilliant
Ardra thinks Uthol's idea of bio-notes on such things is very good!
Syladara that is REALLY brilliant
Ciriel says, 'You can actually use this system for many varieties of RP.'
Lucillia claps her hands.
Sigald | <~ Has played on Muds that had flags for things like that.
Sigald cheers for Uthol!
Ciriel says, 'Same, Sigald, which is why I had the idea.'
Syladara is very relieved
Sigald cheers for Ciriel!
Lucillia Great suggestion
Edheleth | <-- Also has
Lucillia | ok
Ardra chuckles at Arolamir's idea but things it really isn't a bad one hehe.
Uthol agrees with Arolamir
Ciriel says, 'I can try and throw together a post about it later and toss it on the various boards for folks. :)'
Arion *suggests Ciriel posts something on the board regarding this* :)
Sigald nods. | Generally alts get used for things like that already. To...up the ante for other rp.
Lucillia OK. I think Mery is next.
Ramblis nods at Ciriel.
Malkyr says, 'well again...IF anyone runs into any Meta-gamin, Moding or otherwise inappropriate behaviour from amy watchers let the officers know'
Lokath says, 'Yeah, if you want to get someone killed, level 2 alts skipping instances are yay. See if you can ask someone to make and play one for a day or so.'
Sigald whistles at Merylvor.
Merylvor |Allrighty my suggestion/questions have to do with the Bree law and the whole kidnapping/jail thing... I guess my suggestion would be that if there is going to be an arrest or a kidnapping that it be for a predetermined amount of time +++
Merylvor - Believe me, I used to play a 'good guy' and I was kidnapped by the Morchant once or twice. It sucks to be chained in a basement for 2 weeks ooc when the one chained there is your main...same goes for brigands being captured and stuck in a jail cell ++
Merylvor - for a vague amount of time. Also, are we, as an RP community agreed that one IRL day = 8 IC days? or is that just a variable, and if it is, how do we work that out?
Sigald nods. | IC/IRL, try not to get kidnapped by people who may or may not be around later to finish the scene?
Anubias cant believe this stuff happens LOL...
Lokath speaks up for a sec. I gotta go. Goodnight, all, and have fun figuring things out.
Aellwen says, 'actually I did some calculating. 1 real world day = 7 in game days'
Kaenwynn says, 'I would really like to set up a trial system for those that would be willing to participate'
Sigald | Later Lokath!
Malkyr says, 'that is something I would like to see happen'
Lokath holds his arm in pain.
Arolamir For my stance on time. I keep calendar days accurate but the year will always be 3018 TA regardless. Just my personal thing.
Anubias says, 'I think its 8 Aellwen...by my own calculations.'
Lokath says, '3 hours is a night.'
Lokath says, '3 hours is a day.'
Lokath says, '6 hours is one game day.'
Kaenwynn says, '*calculates how long wulf has been in jail and giggles*'
Anubias says, 'Actually, the nights are shorter than the days'
Lokath says, 'So there's 4 days in a day.'
Lokath says, 'Jeez, the nights are shorter? Stupid night-only quests.'
Aellwen says, 'hmm when I did my calculating, turbine in their faq does list how many seconds are in a game day'
Kaenwynn says, 'I talked with Cliffe the other day, and we were thinking that the public defenders that may act in trials would really be members of the sundry host. After they defended you in trial, you owed them a boon = plot twist.'
Aellwen says, 'adding those up I came to 7 total'
Aellwen says, 'well 7 and a half'
Anubias says, 'Turbine posted this...I Will get the accurate info real fast...I think its 8 days though'
Your friend, Delaney, has gone offline.
Kaenwynn says, 'of course trials would be optional, but if we coudl get some sort of system hammered out, I think it'd be really cool to rp through.'
Your friend, Daeryth, has come online.
Lokath says, 'What does the sundry host mean?'
Aellwen says, 'my turn'
Radcliffe shoos Lokath out the door.
Aellwen says, 'ok so, the arresting and trials is all fine'
Lucillia |Sundry Host is a new kin. You'll find out later.
Arion | I'll post the details for the upcoming trial and seek any comments/suggestions.
Uthol giggles behind his hand at Radcliffe
Langley stabs Radcliffe.
Aellwen says, 'however some of my members have said some people in the community seemed to concider the watchers a joke'
Anubias says, 'Yep, here it is: Time in Middle-earth runs 8x faster than real life - a complete cycle of day and night takes 3 hours. Night is shorter than Day.'
Sigald nods. | Failure to seperate the image of previous incarnations of the Kin Tag from the current.
Aellwen says, 'so since I have taken over leadership, I been trying to change our image from when we had moders. So I welcome any feedback on how to change this'
You say, 'I've always assumed a certain level of flextime in any setting'
Langley | 1st Gen Watchers, ftw! Also, duly noted Aellwen!
Unknown Command
Stanleigh raises his hand, but decides he can just send a /tell to Aellwen.
Kaenwynn says, 'You're honestly doing lovely Aellwen. At least from my perspective.'
Lucillia nods.
Radcliffe cheers 1st gen Watchers from his puddle of blood.
Sigald shrugs. | Name change... New Watchers of Bree, new uniform? Forum post announcing loud and clear the change of management?
Kaenwynn says, 'in fact...I think I have a char. that my just join the watch *smirk*'
Ardra - I apologize, guys, but I have to take off for now. Will definitely read the transcript and the many threads on Floating Log!
Merylvor |Much better than the last bunch...
Anubias says, 'I have question...whenever possible.'
Sigald | Later Ardra!
Lucillia |Thanks for coming Ardra!
Avadrin leaves with Ardra.
Langley twists the knife before patting 'cliffe on the back.
Aellwen says, 'actually I have announced clearly the change in command SIgald'
Merylvor waves to Ardra.
Aellwen says, 'on the landroval forum'
Ardra waves : )
You agree with Aellwen.
Lucillia |Oh something that just came up in kin chat. The watchers should patrol like they used to.
Sigald grins. | Appearance of responsibility will help...
Uthol says, 'and emote the actions of the patrol?'
Anubias keeps his hand raised.
Lucillia |If need be yes.
Malkyr says, 'we are also going to implement a training program for our people to be able to deal with the 3 different types of conflict//tutn by turn roll, single roll and emote battle'
Syladara looks at Anubias
Lucillia |Annubias go
Lucillia |Ah! Good to hear Malk
Aellwen says, 'not to mention certain members will be getting more education than others'
Sigald blinks. | 41 already? Lord.
Lucillia agrees.
Kaenwynn cheers for malk
Aellwen says, 'I don't allow meta gaming of any sorts'
Reddhawk says, 'I would also recommend posting gate guards during the evening hours and asking folks their business in Bree as they pass through.'
Yusraa :Malk that sounds like an excellent plan.
Kaenwynn cheers for aellwen.
Malkyr says, 'if not I have a troll mallot of removal for them'
You say, 'ooh, neat idea Redd =)'
Sigald cheers at Anubias.
Kaenwynn says, 'you guys all have such lovely ideas.'
Reddhawk says, 'That way it would be a bit more like the books and bit more lively and realistic.'
Malkyr says, 'as we get more members we will do that for sure'
You say, 'And they probably won't get ridden down and trod under doors. Probably...'
Aellwen says, 'and'
Malkyr says, 'which leads to another point...make sure your people tag'
Aellwen says, 'when we get our kin house, it will be a training center'
Kaenwynn says, 'lawl.'
Aellwen says, 'so anyone will be able to use it'
Stanleigh agrees with Reddhawk. "That would be pretty cool."
Kaenwynn says, 'TAG'
Anubias says, 'I have noticed by listening to this meeting that many of you seem to have storylines that take place in Middle-earth but not directly involved in the events that are taking place. Are any of you open to a storyline that dovetails with the main LotR story?'
Kaenwynn says, 'that's what I wanted to say, put your RP tags on if you're on the watch'
Aellwen says, 'we will educate even non-watchers on the roll combats'
You say, 'usually that sort of thing is a tad taboo Anubias'
Langley | The Redwolds shy from direct involvement, but we do acknowledge the threat of the shadow.
Arion | YES! *in response to Anubias*
You say, 'but that's generally just a loose random rule of thumb. Maybe someone does. =)'
Edheleth sits down.
Arion | *mutters an apology for being loud*
Anubias says, 'I have found that among seasoned RPers that sort of story is ALL that occurs. :P'
Lokath says, 'If we're going to do anything in relation to the main story, it has to be REALLY borderline. Nothing that would change ANYTHING at all.'
Kaenwynn says, 'Kaen deserted his scouting party >< That's where his storyline derails from the plot train.'
Sigald nods to Anubias. | It's easier to avoid being beaten down by lorehammers if you take a healthy distance. Generally touching on the Fellowship is something best left to VERY careful lore rp'ers.
Anubias says, 'Well...not all that occurs, but it certainly is not taboo.'
Stanleigh shakes his head. "LFE isn't simply because they aren't really a fit role to play in the epic storyline but the Elentiri does a fantastic job of participating in the epic storyline... even wrote their own epic story.
Aellwen says, 'well if you are interested in a borderline story, we watchers with the red arrows are in planning for an inter-kinship story, involving a brigand killing an underhill hobbit and stealing a box of jewelery'
Lokath says, 'Crap. I have to go now. Dang you people, you're too interesting.'
Aellwen says, 'and would eventually leader to an orc connection'
Aellwen says, 'er lead*'
Stanleigh AND if you do RP the epic storyline, I wouldn't let that be known to all people you RP with, keep it within a group of friends or a kinship...
Lokath bows deeply.
Anubias says, 'LOL...my storyline is not borderline...it just takes place on a grander scale than Bree or one area of Middle-earth.'
Uthol waves to Lokath
Sigald nods. | Sigald's history touches on the Hobbit, but only tangentially. It's easier.
Finleigh waves goodbye to Lokath.
Lucillia nods.
Lokath says, 'One last suggestion. It'd be amusing. We should get some group to run through the entire storyline of the fellowship of the ring, with people acting it out.'
Anubias says, 'Like I said, it dovetails with the main storyline of what is happening in Middle-earth...but doesnt touch the Fellowship.'
Lokath says, 'we have the zones to do it in now.'
Sigald giggles.
Malkyr says, 'I have run across someone who claimed that treebeard offered to lead his ranger army to take over bree'
Arolamir wonders if he can be bill the pony?
Aellwen laughs.
Radcliffe | In response to your question Anubias several of the members of the Redwolds have formed a company of elves who would be interested in participating if we are able to reconcile it to our own storyline.
Sigald | Actually think that would be a neat OOC event.
Malkyr says, 'and that elrond was behind it O_O'
Stanleigh says, 'His name had to be Orun... he's crazy.'
Arion | The Elentiri epic story is more tied to LotRO's Epic Story line rather than LotR.
Anubias says, 'Anyway...would anyone like to become involved in it?'
Lucillia | well we want our elves involed in some stuff somewhere : )
Lokath says, 'Aaaaagh, not Orun.'
Lokath says, 'Bye, crunchies.'
Stanleigh nods quickly. "Its true... he tried to EAT me."
Lokath laughs.
Lokath waves to everyone.
Merylvor Orun tries to eat everyone!
Your friend, Rhyssa, has gone offline.
Kaenwynn says, 'he did eat me...*rubs part of his arm*'
Lucillia |orun tried to eat my hobbit <.< lol
Sigald nods at Anubias.
Ramblis steps back and half salutes the room. Take care everyone.
Sigald waves to Ramblis.
Aellwen says, 'well nathon, next time sprinkle some garlic and onion on yourself. If you are going to get ate, at least taste good'
Kaenwynn says, 'Indeed. Indeed. ><'
Anubias says, 'Ok Radcliffe, sounds good...there is room to tie anyone's storyline or kin storyline into what I have in mind.'
Malkyr says, 'guildens mustard'
Stanleigh says, 'Sugar and spice and everything nice.'
Sigald | Next topic: Cannibalism. Anyone have any good recipes?
Kaenwynn says, 'lol'
Aellwen says, 'lol'
Lucillia |lol
Radcliffe | Nods, aye though I am not sharing them with you lot.
Sileas laughs.
Kaenwynn says, 'meatloaf is always a safe bet.'
Sigald | Concerns, Comments?
Stanleigh nods. "Stanleigh stew... all you need is a stanleigh and some water..."
Lucillia hides her hobbit, Betula...lol
Merylvor pats Stanleigh on the head.
Anubias says, 'Ok, I have to be going to bed...Hospital work comes early.'
Arolamir heads to Mordor to sign up as perhaps Sauron isn't so bad after all.
Kaenwynn says, 'Yay back to rping!'
Aellwen says, 'so this summit over?'
Stanleigh laughs at Reddhawk.
Sigald says, 'Later Anubias!'
Syladara cheers.
Faolan bids Anubias goodnight. "Sleep well."
Esslar kills the chat log and goes to put it up.
Radcliffe | Cheers Anubis, keep in touch.
Syladara thanks for a great meeting
Langley | The Redwolds hereby lay claim to Combe!
Lucillia bows deeply.
Sigald cheers.
Lucillia lets out a mighty ROAR!
Sigald lets out a mighty ROAR!
Radcliffe flexes mightily!
Lucillia chuckles.
Anubias says, 'Thanks for having me...and safe journies in Middle-earth.'
Kaenwynn says, 'TO COMBE!'
Syladara begins dancing the Jig!
Sileas says, 'Weee!!!'
Langley | Thank you all for coming, and keep yourselves posted for future summits and what have you!
Lucillia |OH btw lockley's talk to Lang aobut sundry host!
Merylvor gives Faolan a big hug.
Lucillia |And yes thanks for coming everyone! ^^
Faolan raises a brow.
Sileas cheers.
Langley | I'll handle that in private, Luci~